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The Cao & Chao Show is a biography podcast where we talk to remarkable creators about how they got here. In so doing, we hope to better understand the roots of creativity and how we all might nurture more in ourselves and those in our care.

May 22, 2019

Robert Kuo

He was born in Beijing, grew up in Taipei, and has made his mark in Los Angeles. Architectural Digest called him the King of Cloisonné, the Raja of Repousse, the Lord of Lacquer. Others have called him the Imperial craftsman of the 21st Century.

His father was considered Taiwan’s Cloisonné master. His...


May 8, 2019

Dr. Bechara Saab

CEO and Chief Scientist of Mobio Interactive, a digital therapeutics and performance enhancement company.Before setting up Mobio, he was the Principal Investigator of Neuroscience at the Psychiatric Hospital in Zurich, Switzerland.

After fifteen years in academia, he went off to study the effects of...


May 2, 2019

Lin Ou

Famous for her elaborate embroidery designs at Anthropologie, the American fashion label, and more recently at Robert Redford’s own fashion label, Sundance. 

Lin is originally from Beijing, the daughter of a diplomat. She left home to pursue her dream of becoming a fashion designer in the United States almost...


May 2, 2019

Shih-Ting Hung

Her first film from Hollywood’s USC Cinema School, “Viola: the traveling rooms of a little gialt (2008)” got her the 35th Student Academy Award, the cover of the Academy Report from the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, and a projected digital showcase onto the New York Guggenheim...


May 1, 2019

Dr. Michael Zyda

Founding director of USC GamePipe Laboratory here in beautiful LA.  The Laboratory has been ranked the number one video gameprogram in the United States for the last 9-years by the Princeton Review. Some say it is the best program in the world.

His alums have shipped games played by over 2.5 billion...