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The Cao & Chao Show is a biography podcast where we talk to remarkable creators about how they got here. In so doing, we hope to better understand the roots of creativity and how we all might nurture more in ourselves and those in our care.

Jul 27, 2019

BRYCE WHITWAM

Hi. And welcome to the Cao & Chao Show. A podcast where we talk to remarkable creators about how they got here.

Today, I talk with Bryce Whitwam, newly minted Chief Executive Officer at MRM McCann, formerly Chief Executive Officer of Wunderman China.

Both Wunderman and MRM are direct marketing agencies....


Jul 20, 2019

RONNIE WU

Hi. Welcome to the Cao & Chao Show. A podcast where we talk to remarkable creators about how they got here.

Today, we are at TBWA Shanghai – in the sprawling yet sparse office of the Chief Creative Officer – Ronnie Wu.

This interview is a bit different from earlier interviews. It involves cheese and a...


Jul 20, 2019

RONNIE WU

Hi. Welcome to the Cao & Chao Show. A podcast where we talk to remarkable creators about how they got here.

Today, we are at TBWA Shanghai – in the sprawling yet sparse office of the Chief Creative Officer – Ronnie Wu.

This interview is a bit different from earlier interviews. It involves cheese and a...


Jul 13, 2019

TOMAZ MOK

Hello Everyone. And welcome to the Cao & Chao Show. A podcast where we talk to remarkable creators about how they got here.

Today we speak with Tomaz Mok, the second of the four godfathers of advertising in Mainland China that we’ve had on the show.

Tomaz’ advertising career spans more than 45 years. 35 of...


Jul 13, 2019

Hello Everyone. And welcome to the Cao & Chao Show. A podcast where we talk to remarkable creators about how they got here.

Today we speak with Tomaz Mok, the second of the four godfathers of advertising in Mainland China that we’ve had on the show.

Tomaz’ advertising career spans more than 45 years. 35 of those...